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			<title>Visiting Maine wineries?</title>
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			<description>Wholly Moley!</description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:19:01 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Visiting Maine wineries?</title>
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			<description>Ridiculous!  Just when I thought some states were finally starting to part ways from the puritanical tyranny of outdated prohibition laws...</description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:45:19 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Visiting Maine wineries?</title>
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			<description>The new rule of law in Maine (already passed; effective shortly) is that no wine tastings may be conducted in the sight of children.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I certainly have seen plenty of families visiting wineries, particularly at the harvest.&amp;nbsp; Will no one think of the children?&lt;A href=&quot;http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/news/local/6729883.html&quot;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/news/local/6729883.html&lt;/A&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:03:29 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>The Garden State</title>
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			<description>I think the Cab Franc should probably be a focus for the mid atlantic states.  If we&apos;re going to be honest about it they probably don&apos;t have the perfect growing season weather to compete with California for Cab Sauv....so why try?  Do what works for you</description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:31:26 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>The Garden State</title>
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			<description>Even in New Jersey, most folks don&apos;t realize the Garden State is home to dozens of vineyards and wineries.&amp;nbsp; Renault Winery is in fact one of the oldest in the nation.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Recently, I visited one of our&amp;nbsp;wineries for the first time in quite a while. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;New Egypt, NJ, was formerly best known for its Flea Market and Auction and the short-track raceway located there. Now, it is also the home of Laurita Winery.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The winery has been around only a few years, less than five, and I was unfamiliar with it and its wines.&amp;nbsp; It is part of a larger complex including a bed and breakfast and an equestrian center. (Thus suitable as a travel destination, &lt;EM&gt;n&apos;cest pas &lt;/EM&gt;?)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Entering the property for its first &quot;Concert on the Lawn&quot;, featuring a local blues band, I thought to myself &quot;This explains why they ask $30 for a bottle of New Jersey Cabernet. The place is magnificent with beautiful landscaping, hardscaping that is just as extensive and impressive, and a restaurant/retail space constructed from two converted barns. Spectacular views of close to 46 acres of vineyard are afforded the visitor.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I didn&apos;t like it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I realize that commercial wine-making is a rich man&apos;s game. Vineyard acreage alone is prohibitively expensive. This place didn&apos;t drip maoney, it was built of it. I felt as if I could see dollar bills laminating the walkways, fluttering from the stone walls, and mulching the manicured lawns.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The owners have to get that money back in some way and they are attempting to do so by charging $9 a glass for what is no more than pedestrian New Jersey wine.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Even though this was billed as a &apos;festival&apos; they seemed to actively discourage the tasting of their wines by offering tasting portions at only one of their four or six wine bars/counters. Only two were in fact open, and the one which had more than a single person pouring was only selling wine.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Imagine - a winery festival with thousands of invitees attending and one person offering tastes of the wines.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I was able to taste only 3 of their wines: the aforementioned $30 Cabernet Sauvignon (identifiably Cabernet, which is actually success with that vinifera in NJ), an earlier vintage of that wine, selling at $23 (idenitfiable as red wine) and an off-dry light blend, identified as &quot;Tailgate&quot;, presumably intended for consumption in parking lots and selling for $15.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Some few years ago, I spoke with the owner of another relatively new winery and noted that his leading wine, a Cabernet Franc (which I think is the most successful red vinifera in the Mid-Atlantic states) was a nice enough wine but priced well over comparable CA and French wines.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;He responded &quot;You have a nice place to drink it, some music playing...&quot;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I want my wine priced by the quality of the wine, not by the quality of the setting of the winery.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:43:59 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Napa Trip</title>
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			<description>That makes three! 

Go promote your junk somewhere else.</description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:25:03 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Napa Trip</title>
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			<description>I agree, I&apos;m sick of it too. We get about a dozen new forum users each day, most of them just wanting to promote the websites of their clients. We&apos;ve put in restrictions so new users can&apos;t add URL links, and we&apos;ll continue to monitor the posts and edit out any references to websites that are merely promotion tactics.</description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 07:28:47 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Napa Trip</title>
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			<description>Wine Web, please feel free to moderate my reply right out of here, but sometimes I get sick of people lying to me and treating me like an idiot.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Soneill, you lying rat.&amp;nbsp; You treat us as if we have no common sense in your failed attempt to garner any good will at all for your site.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;You say: &quot;I&apos;m part way through my wine holiday (for which I took off 3 months!) and next on the radar is the Napa. Can you recomend which wineries I should visit&quot;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Who takes off three months to visit wineries throughout the world&amp;nbsp;without knowing what wineries they are going to visit?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;You &quot;should be there in mid July&quot; as you are in Oz now - what does one have to do with the other?&amp;nbsp; And only &quot;should be&quot;? &amp;nbsp; Are you spending the next two months visiting wineries someone told you to visit in Australia?&amp;nbsp; You&apos;re on a three month wine &quot;holiday&quot;and you don&apos;t know where or when you are going?&amp;nbsp; You are either a liar or stupid - I feel the omens are portentous for a combination of the two.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Are you sure that the place you are advertising is a &quot;great site for finding a wine tour&quot;?&amp;nbsp; Because it sounds like you don&apos;t have a&amp;nbsp;tour at all.</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:56:31 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Napa Trip</title>
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			<description>I&apos;m part way through my wine holiday (for which I took off 3 months!) and next on the radar is the Napa. Can you reccomend which wineries I should visit?  I should be there in mid July as I&apos;m in the Barossa Valley (Australia) currently. Used this great site for finding a wine tour. [deleted reference to website]</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:39:58 -0600</pubDate>
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			<title>Napa Trip</title>
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			<description>It sounds like you went to both Napa and Sonoma Wineries!  I am also in the industry working for a large distributor in California and receive the same discounts and perks!  It is great to be in the industry.  My friends and I used [deleted reference to website] and went to Chimney Rock, Rutherford Hill, Stags Leap Wine Cellars &amp;amp; Pine ridge. We were treated like kings at all the wineries.  Having the limousine also made it extra special.</description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:14:42 -0600</pubDate>
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