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			<description>&lt;P&gt;Good to have your opinion on this issue thunderbrd (named after the wine?).&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;However, &quot;I think as long as the wines are stored in proper conditions, it is surely drinkable&quot; requires that I ask why this is your opinion.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Is it your opinion that wines will last forever without turning into a variant of wine vinegar?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I guess I want you to think about just what happens when a &quot;wine has pass it&apos;s prime age&quot;?&amp;nbsp; Is the condition of a wine a couple of years past its prime the same as that of a wine 10 years past?&amp;nbsp; !5 yewars past?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Take for instance one of the wines named - Chardonnay Mouton-Cadet - 1989.&amp;nbsp; This $3 bottle of wine was probably prime to drink around 1991 and undoubtedly past its prime by 1995.&amp;nbsp; How do you think this wine shows today?&amp;nbsp; If indeed drinkable, would you drink it?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;The best wines may be challenged by 20 years of age.&amp;nbsp; With run of the mill plonk such as named in this post it is not even a challenge.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I don&apos;t think we have regulars&amp;nbsp;in Asia, we&apos;re mostly in the Western hemisphere.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;No, you don&apos;t need a wine fridge.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:35:39 -0600</pubDate>
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			<description>well i think the only way to find out if the wine is still drinkable or not is jus to open it and have a taste. I think as long as the wines are stored in proper conditions, it is surely drinkable it&apos;ll only be the matter if the wine has pass it&apos;s prime age. 

by the way guys are there anyone here staying in asia region? is it a must to keep wines in cellar fridge? </description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:22:45 -0600</pubDate>
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			<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;quote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;hr&gt;&lt;i&gt;Originally posted by: &lt;b&gt;BromBordoo&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I am shocked, shocked and surprised to find that I am on the same page as you others on this issue. I have the feeling that it is because of the bad news that we are mature wine drinkers.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;lol!&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;nbsp;I must admit ; however,&amp;nbsp;I was reluctant at first to purchase the screw caps for traditional reasons.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Hey, seen any &apos;crown cap&apos; wines?&amp;nbsp; Like a beer bottle or old soda bottle.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;nbsp;had a german wine a couple of years ago that used this type closure, but have not seen any others. &amp;nbsp; Hmmm, now I am wondering if it was a sparkling cider or a Prosecco I recall closed like this...&lt;hr&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; The one &apos;crown cap&apos; I had seen was also on a Prosecco just recently. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:50:33 -0600</pubDate>
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			<description>Oh yes, I had a Prosecco that came in a bottle with a crown cap.  Great idea!</description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:09:37 -0600</pubDate>
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			<description>I am shocked, shocked and surprised to find that I am on the same page as you others on this issue.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I have the feeling that it is because of the bad news that we are mature wine drinkers.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&quot;I also like the fact that when I&apos;m overstocked in the cellar I can stand up the screwcap bottles on the shelves&quot;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I hadn&apos;t thought of this Elron, but I agree it takes any concern from that situation.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Hey, seen any &apos;crown cap&apos; wines?&amp;nbsp; Like a beer bottle or old soda bottle.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;nbsp;had a german wine a couple of years ago that used this type closure, but have not seen any others.&lt;BR&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR&gt;Hmmm, now I am wondering if it was a sparkling cider or a Prosecco I recall closed like this...</description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:03:03 -0600</pubDate>
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			<description>When screwtops first came out, I noticed them more before I purchased. Like you and Kim, I don&apos;t notice till I open them up now. Although, I do prefer the cork sound too but&amp;nbsp;I like the convienance of the twist off at times, especially, at BYOB&apos;s. So I guess it really don&apos;t matter here either. &lt;BR&gt;I also like the fact that when I&apos;m overstocked in the cellar I can stand up the screwcap bottles on the shelves. </description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:28:48 -0600</pubDate>
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			<description>While I enjoy the ritual of pulling the cork, I have to admit that the convenience of a screwcap is very nice, especially since I&apos;ve been having some issues with tendonitis.  I don&apos;t pay attention to what type of closure a bottle has when I buy it.  It has no bearing on whether I purchase a wine or not, nor would I be embarrassed to serve or order a wine with a screwcap.  </description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:35:43 -0600</pubDate>
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			<description>Even with the increasing proliferation of screwtop bottles, I&apos;ve noticed that I haven&apos;t noticed.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Just yesterday bought a Spanish&amp;nbsp;wine - nothing special sub-$10 red for some beans and rice.&amp;nbsp; When I got it home, I noticed it had a screw cap.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;That&apos;s when I noticed I hadn&apos;t noticed the last couple of screw tops I had bought when I was buying them.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;When I am looking at the bottle, I&apos;m not paying attention to the closure, even though there are many more screw caps around.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;What I do notice is that it doesn&apos;t bother me at all.&amp;nbsp; Not only does it not bother me at home, I&apos;m happy to twist the top off at any BYOB.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Anybody else &lt;U&gt;not&lt;/U&gt; notice?&amp;nbsp; Take particular note?&amp;nbsp; Look for corks instead?&amp;nbsp; Embarassed by screw tops out at dinner?</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:19:21 -0600</pubDate>
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			<description>Tyler&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&quot;i bought off someones wine collection(about 30 bottles) just due to curiosity and would like to know if any of them were ok to drink... &quot;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I don&apos;t know.&amp;nbsp; There&apos;s a couple of reasons why I may not believe you.&amp;nbsp; In your favor is that you went to the trouble of identifying a couple of specific bottles, but working against you is: 1)&amp;nbsp;the fact that you ask for an e-mail response at a discussion board (why would a e-mail response be appropriate?); and 2) your statement above.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Why in the world would you buy 30 bottles of wine that you don&apos;t know anything about, especially whether they are fit to drink or not?&amp;nbsp; Would you buy 30 steaks without knowing whether you could eat them or not?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I wouldn&apos;t.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Regardless of whether or not you are a BS e-mail collector, I&apos;ll tell you that likely none of the wines you named are drinkable.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Out of your bunch of 13-20-some years old wines which includes cheap mass market plonk as the only wines you name, I doubt any are drinkable.</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:11:43 -0600</pubDate>
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			<description>Hi everyone ... just wanted some feedback on someone a little more up on their wine intelligence than me.
i bought off someones wine collection(about 30 bottles) just due to curiosity and would like to know if any of them were ok to drink... i dont know the whole rule about stored wines and whats ok to drink 10+ years later. 
like i mentioned there is 30 bottles so i wont list them all but the years range from late 80&apos;s throughout the 90&apos;s. from Chardonnay to Merlot and a 1986 Gewurztraminer. i have wines from Italy to California
Ill list a few wines 
Estanica Pinnacles - 1996 Monterey County - Chardonnay
Mouton-Cadet - 1989 - Bordeaux Blanc (appelation bordeaux controlee) - un vin Barron Philippe
Bolla - 1992 - Soave (denominazione di origine controllata) classico
ok so thats 3 of the 30 lol many more if u have n e words of helpfulness please do share.
you can email me at Lessthanpunks@aol.com
thanks for your help
Tyler  </description>
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